Marleen van Bergeijk, curator of the Embassy of Health, has launched a new podcast! In this podcast series Marleen explores, from her practice as a social designer, the space for design within the complex social theme of ‘health’. She visits makers, companies and organisations to discuss how a domain ruled by protocols and efficiency can work together with the creative kind that embraces uncertainty and where it can be unclear which way a trajectory will go.
In this episode Marleen visits Madelaine Berlis, social designer at Afdeling Buitengewone Zaken in Rotterdam. In this episode, they talk about how you as a designer can go sideways together with your client, how you can enter into a partnership with your client and the importance of language. They also explore how you define impact together and how you can measure it. Please not that this podcast is in Dutch.